Übersicht 2021 LR / P Batteriekapazität Fahrzeugschein

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Grundsätzlich ändert selbst ein 82KWH Akku im LR nichts an meiner Aussage (sofern das kein Fehldruck ist). Dann sind eben 82KWH Brutto (ca. 81,1+1,0) in dem Akku und das steht dann so im Schein, allerdings:

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Du gehst also bei allen LRs 2021 von Fehldruck beim Schein bei den 82kWh aus? Obwohl diese von 79 nachträglich auf 82 geändert wurden(LR nicht P)?

Ja.

Meine Sicht zu dem Thema hatte ich weiter oben schon mal geschrieben:

Übersicht 2021 LR / P Batteriekapazität Fahrzeugschein

Höchstwahrscheinlich ja, aber den Begriff 2170C kannte ich so vorher nicht. Für mich macht aber nur das Sinn. Nein, mit 100%iger Sicherheit nicht. Ich wage mich aber mal an die folgende Behauptung: -Vor dem Refresh gab es beim LR/P genau eine Batterie. Die 79er Panasonic, dessen Zellen nun unter dem Namen 2170C bekannt sind. -Seit dem Refresh *13 gibt es drei Batterien (77,79,82) im LR/P, welche auf den ersten Blick nur mit E3D und E5D zu unterscheiden waren. Wir haben dann gerlernt, dass d…

Zusätzlich noch etwas ausführlicher in TMC (english):

-The Performance M3 refresh E3D was initially almost only designated with 77KWH in the papers. Turned out this was wrong every time.
-The Long Range E3D was sometimes classed as having 79KWH and in other cases 82KWH. All read 77.8KWH in SMT. This is still something open for discussion and not 100% clear. My guess is, that they are all the old 79KWH batteries that show as 77.8KWH.
-People who had their papers changed to include a tow hitch, also got their battery capacity changed from 79 to 82KWH…ridiculous!
German Forum members then contacted the „German Federal Traffic Agency“ to clarify and indeed they found at least two wrong links in their databases. One was the 77KWH for the Performance.

AAKEE said: ↑

3C ( The old 2170 cell = C?)
3L ( 2170L cell, we know from the document header)

My take on this is the following:
When the Refresh was announced the EU type certificate was updated to v13. The changelog of v13 included the following

We all assumed that the introduction of the 2170L cells would bring an increased capacity of around 5%. This then turned out only to be the case for the Performance, although Long Range drivers claimed to have the same battery, because their German papers said so. Only when reading these batterys with SMT…only 77.8KWH Full Pack When New was shown. P Refresh was always 82.1KWH FPWN!

Then we got another update of the type certificate. V14 now had the following updates declared

It clearly reads to me like the 2170L cell was previously not available in the Long Range Model 3, but now will be available. Though no one saw one yet. All deliveries so far are E5D (LG) and E3CD.

Also the fact that the 2170C variant is not mentioned anywhere before and also not introduced in this v14 version, is a good indicator that this indeed are the old cells that have been in the Model 3 from the start.

Last but not least, in v14 it also says that the new (fourth) digit was introduced to show the drive unit category (more clearly). I am sure this wasn’t done voluntarily by Tesla, but actually a demand by the Dutch / EU authorities…this again is me guessing, but Tesla didn’t seem too fond of communicating clearly about this topic in the past.