Ladekabel Typ 2 mit Port Opener

Gute Lösung:
Das abgebildete Kabel ist auf diese Länge bestellt und der Stecker am Fahrzeug hat einen Knopf, mit welchem der Port am Tesla geöffnet werden kann.

Bezugsquelle:
evchargeking.com/type-2-type … ging-cable
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Fragen, wie lang ist das Kabel auf dem Bild
Und kann jetzt nicht jeder der vorbeikommt das Kabel abziehen? Hmmm beim UMC ja auch…

Afaik funktioniert der CPO doch nur wenn das Auto nicht abgeschlossen ist.

Das Kabel ist 2.5 Meter lang und natürlich kann es niemand abziehen. Auf beiden Seiten ist das Kabel blockiert, bis das Auto geöffnet wird und der Knopf am Stecker gedrückt wird (wie bei einem SuC).

Danke (für beide Antworten :slight_smile: )

Ich sehe das nur das 6m Kabel und braucht es das Tesla charge cable Kit dazu oder funktioniert es mit jedem Tesla?

Und wie funktioniert der Charge Port Opener ohne Strom? Typ 2 Ladestationen geben erst Strom frei wenn das Auto Freigabe gibt - dazu muss es aber angesteckt sein was wiederum erfordert, dass der Charge Port aufgeht bevor das Kabel Strom bekommt…

Fragt sich Frank

Hello all,

I am going to write this down in English, because my German is really bad…
I wanted to quickly answer your questions about the Tesla charging cables.

@ roads: If you order a Tesla charging cable, the kit is already built into the connector, so you don’t need the kit. It works with Tesla model S and future Model X, not with the roadster of course.
@ Franko30: In the connector that has the button, a small electronic component is built in (the „kit“) that has a battery of it’s own, so the cable doesn’t need to be connected to work. It will let you open the chargeport to start charging, and it will also disconnect the cable when you push the button IF your car key is around.

Hope this is clear, but if not, just ask away!

happy charging!
Erwin

Ok, battery being the important word. The Tesla UMC doesn’t need one, since it’s only used with power sources that are „live“ as soon as you plug it into the socket.

Frank

Thanks Erwin, now I get it. So what is the kit for then? Can I enable any Type2 cable to open a Tesla charge port? I also can only see a 6m cable. A short 2m cable is nice to have.
Edit: yeah seems you can add this to a cable that has a housing that can be opened. Can I see manual to install?

The kit is sold for people who already have a cable or charging station with a fixed cable, and want to have the Tesla button. You have to make sure that you can open and re-close the connector!
This is a link to the installation manual:
[url]http://www.evchargeking.com/Media/Uploaded/Tesla%20App%20Installation%20Instructions.pdf[/url]
The reason I started out with just 6 meter cables is because sometimes you cannot park next to a charging station, the cherging station is on the other side, or an ICE is blocking the parking space. With a 6 meter cable you can get around those problems.
If it is strictly for home use, I can always try to cut a cable up and make 2 cables… :smiley:

Erwin

Sorry aber dazu haben wir doch bereits 2 Threads:

:arrow_right: Charge Port Opener In Typ2-Kabel und
:arrow_right: Tesla Chargeport Opener an privater Wallbox?.

Aber immer schön den Macher da zu haben.

Erwin, you have a list of compatible cables? The pros here came to the conclusion you need both a 6-7m cable and a short one as the handling is fantastic.

I do not have a compatible cable list, but I do know that the Mennekes cable supplied by Tesla cannot be opened. It is filled with resin which is a good thing for waterproofness, but makes impossible to open.
Most non-mennekes cables have plugs that are screwed together, and they should be good.
I have built the application in several Keba charging stations, and I know people that have built it in to the Lolo chargers as well.
The main test is: can you open up your plug and screw it back together? Then you’re good to go…

Erwin

Yeah checked meanwhile, sadly all my cables are molded. Could be a DIN here which I would understand.

Erwin, this is nothing else than a small device sending an RF signal to open the port. It has a battery so I dont really get why it has to be connected to the cables voltage and ground and why it has to be inside? Nasty questions from the insurance company I imagine here if wicked things happen.
Why not make a small and thin device out of this that is just hotglued to the Type2 connector that could also be molded closed. Id buy two of those from you.

@roads:

The 2 wires are necessary to stop the charging procedure and unlock the cable from the car.
The chargeport is opened with an RF signal, but the signal to stop charging and disconnect the plug is given through those 2 cables. That is why it has to be built into the plug…

Look at the video below, when I push the button, the chargeport opens, I put the plug in and you can hear it lock. When I push the button again, you can hear it unlock. That is what the 2 wires do, and it is not possible to do that with an RF signal…

[url]- YouTube

OK thanks get it now.

Let me quickly explain what the cables from the kit do.
The other CPO’s that are referred to some threads only open the charge port, but our kit also stops the charging and releases the plug when you push the button (only when the car key is around of course).
To make the car release the plug, a resistance needs to be changed between the earth and PP pins, that is why you have to cut them and connect them to the kit.

The PP pin is a signal pin not connected to the 380V, it is just aloop inside the plug andd doesn’t even go through the cable.

The resistance between earth and PP tells the car and charging station how much load your cable can handle. You can measure it yourself with an Ohm meter.
For 32A cables the resistance is 220 Ohm for example, for 16A cables it is 680 Ohm.
Because it is built into the cable on both sides, the charging station and car know what the max charging current is the cable can handle. This means that you can never charge with 32A using a 16A cable…
When our button in the plug is pushed, the kit alters the resistance with a specific value, which tells the vehicle to stop charging and release the plug…