Charging a Tesla US version in Europe

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Re: Charging a Tesla US version in Europe

von Mittelhesse » 22. Aug 2017, 15:48

Das Protokoll ist das gleiche, das sehen wir ja schon beim Roadster, das ist nicht ohne Grund genormt :D
Un wo ist das Problem, man nehme ein US Kabel (240V) schneide den Stecker ab, und macht einen Typ2 Stecker (230V) dran.
Geht dann halt nur 1Phasig, aber mit Doppellader an Bord könntest du theoretisch mit 63A laden :D
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Re: Charging a Tesla US version in Europe

von EVChargeKing » 22. Aug 2017, 16:38

trayloader hat geschrieben:Hi EVCK,

could you please evaluate a bit further.
Do You have an official "OK" from Tesla?
Are the protocols compatible from 110V AC to 220V DC?

Why did You develop it?



An official OK from Tesla? No, that will not happen soon :-)
Tesla is a really tough company to deal with, we tried but concluded we are better off investing time in our cables then trying to deal with Tesla.
It are original Tesla plugs (no one else makes them), and the home chargers in the US also work on 240V, so that is no problem. And the protocol is universal (mode 3).
We developed the cable because we got 3 customer requests for a US to EU cable, so we thought it would help people that visit Europe in a US Tesla, or people who import a US Tesla in Europe...

We could also build a Supercharger adapter, but the problem is that we need the US Supercharger plugs, and unless you go to the US and cut them off, they are nowhere to be found...
On the other hand, Tesla could just block supercharging in Europe for US cars if they want to... Although I think they could be legally compelled to provide the service (possibly as a paid service)

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Re: Charging a Tesla US version in Europe

von ensor » 22. Aug 2017, 18:23

trayloader hat geschrieben:
Wenn ja, tut sich hier eine völlig neue Welt auf.


Naja, Supercharging geht damit ja nicht und nicht vergessen, du lädst nach wie vor 32A einphasig (7,4kW).

Alles was der Adapter macht ging theoretisch auch vorher: Tesla liefert in den USA Autos ja mit Typ 1 Adapter für öffentliche Ladestationen aus. Dann braucht man nur noch ein Standard Typ 2 auf Typ 1 Adapterkabel, wie es Nissan Leaf etc benutzen und schon kann man jeden amerikanischen Tesla an europäischen Ladestationen laden.
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Re: Charging a Tesla US version in Europe

von EVChargeKing » 22. Aug 2017, 18:36

@ensor:
The only difference being that you don't have the chargeport opening button, AND you can disconnect the cable when using the adapter...
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Re: Charging a Tesla US version in Europe

von ensor » 22. Aug 2017, 19:08

EVChargeKing, correct and that's a great improvement :) Thanks for offering this cable.
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Re: Charging a Tesla US version in Europe

von egn » 22. Aug 2017, 19:28

There also seems the possibility to charge US models by using Chademo. If have driven a converted Model S at a dealer with Chademo connector about 1 year ago.
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Re: Charging a Tesla US version in Europe

von GalileoHH » 22. Aug 2017, 19:48

ensor hat geschrieben:Naja, Supercharging geht damit ja nicht und nicht vergessen, du lädst nach wie vor 32A einphasig (7,4kW).


Wir sehen ja an Early-Adoptern wie MichaRZ, dass man durchaus auch Tesla ohne die Existenz von SuC fahren kann, wenn das Nutzungsprofil stimmt.

Angesichts des erheblich größeren US-Gebrauchtwagenmarktes kann das für den ein oder anderen eine attraktive Option sein.
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Re: Charging a Tesla US version in Europe

von marco2228 » 23. Aug 2017, 08:24

egn hat geschrieben:There also seems the possibility to charge US models by using Chademo. If have driven a converted Model S at a dealer with Chademo connector about 1 year ago.


Yes, Chademo works well and retrofitting a Model S EU charge port isn't too complicated also and even easier then changing the lights to operate correctly in EU. Just needs a bit of hardware and some minor software tweaks. Just did it yesterday in < 2h and we also had to solve other errors. Hardest part is getting the 2nd row seats out :)
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Re: Charging a Tesla US version in Europe

von GTR2010 » 25. Aug 2017, 10:47

marco2228 hat geschrieben:
egn hat geschrieben:There also seems the possibility to charge US models by using Chademo. If have driven a converted Model S at a dealer with Chademo connector about 1 year ago.


Yes, Chademo works well and retrofitting a Model S EU charge port isn't too complicated also and even easier then changing the lights to operate correctly in EU. Just needs a bit of hardware and some minor software tweaks. Just did it yesterday in < 2h and we also had to solve other errors. Hardest part is getting the 2nd row seats out :)


Are you located in Germany? Would supercharging work?

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Re: Charging a Tesla US version in Europe

von EVChargeKing » 25. Aug 2017, 10:55

retrofitting a Model S EU charge port isn't too complicated also and even easier then changing the lights to operate correctly in EU. Just needs a bit of hardware and some minor software tweaks. Just did it yesterday in < 2h and we also had to solve other errors. Hardest part is getting the 2nd row seats out :)


One thing: if you only change the chargeport hardware you can install a type 2 socket, but you will only be able to charge single phase because the US versions charge only on a single phase...

If you want to charge 3-phase, you also need to swap out the chargers...
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